Vaccines: Did They Really Save Us From Dis-ease?

Most people believe that vaccines saved us from deadly diseases. We actually don’t have any scientific evidence to prove this, but nevertheless we still believe this is the case.  It would be unethical to conduct a double-blind, placebo controlled study to prove the efficacy of vaccines since we already ostensibly know they work and wouldn’t want to put innocent children (the control group) at risk of disease.

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The foundation of medical science is built upon assumptions. We assume that the polio vaccine eradicated the disease, but it was in steady decline well before it was developed.

There is no scientific evidence to show that vaccines are safe and effective, but we do know that after the introduction of vaccines, the death rates attributed to these diseases plummeted.  But there is an inherent problem with this logic.

graph England Measles Scurvy

Measles was 99% gone before the vaccine came out, but the pharmaceutical companies were still deemed the saviours, due largely to a powerful propaganda campaign.

Since correlation does not imply or promise causation, the disappearance of these diseases could be attributed to better hygiene, improved sanitation, as well as a number of other technological advances, all of which came to the scene at the same time as vaccines.

All of a sudden we had flushing toilets and clean running water. We became aware of the importance of nutrition and food sanitation. We covered cesspools and cleaned up the stables and the streets.  Better technology, hygiene, and sanitation allowed us to live more salubrious lives, free of dis-ease.
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These changes were made well before vaccines were introduced and as a result death rates for these diseases dropped significantly. It just so happens that after these vaccines were introduced, they continued to drop.

Diphtheria and Vaccines

Around the same time that vaccines were hailed as the magical bullet for health, we also decided to stop feeding our children ‘swill milk‘, or milk that came from cows that were fed ‘swill’, which a waste product of alcohol distilleries. They used to park CAFO dairy farms next to distilleries.  These disillusioned dairy farmers would feed their cows this toxic sludge that’s left over from making booze in an attempt to save some cash on cattle feed.  We have moved away from this idiotic practice, but have still not learned our lesson, as today’s cows are on antibiotics and growth hormones.

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Measles was 99% gone before the vaccine came out

There was never a vaccine for Tuberculosis or Scarlet Fever, yet these diseases disappeared. Measles was 99% gone before the vaccine came out. Polio was well on its way out too. It was not vaccines, but drastically improved hygiene, clean water, better nutrition, sanitation and living conditions that got rid of the “vaccine preventable diseases”.


graph Scarlet Fever USA

The proponents of vaccination and the germ theory never show us the data before the vaccines were introduced.  It might seem like the vaccines worked if we only are shown the data from after the time they were introduced.  What caused the steep decline in deaths attributed to Pertussis before the vaccine came out?  Maybe we should be more concerned with this data.

graph US Pertussis

Defenders of vaccination often use logical fallacies or flaws in reasoning. A good example is the ‘appeal to emotion‘ fallacy. “Have you ever seen a kid with iron lungs? Why didn’t you vaccinate Timmy?”, they’d incorrectly argue.  Defenders of vaccines will often use this type of logic to try to win their argument.  They are sometimes successful, but only with conversations and debates with people ignorant of these logical fallacies.  Another popular one is the appeal to authority fallacy.  Though the course of history we are constantly reaffirmed that the experts don’t know best.

The Latin phrase “post hoc ergo propter hoc” means, literally, “after this therefore because of this.” The post hoc fallacy is committed when it is assumed that because one thing occurred after another, it must have occurred as a result of it.  People who argue that the polio vaccine saved us from polio don’t understand that their opinion is based on this fallacy in reasoning.


Take the recent cholesterol myth as a prime example.  The American Heart Association has long recommended low fat meals, and replacing saturated fats with trans fats and toxic vegetable oils.  They changed their minds in 2014, now recognizing their faults, and the tens of thousands of deaths attributed to their bad advice.  Listening to the ostensible experts can literally kill you.

cigarrettes do not cause cancer myth

The authorities have been wrong before.  For this reason we can never rely on them.  We must investigate these issues in depth on our own.

iron lungs

A negative pressure ventilator, often referred to colloquially as an iron lung


Evidence and Sources (Show this part to your pro-vaccine M.D.)


See page 80 (page 88 of the PDF) of the CDC’s (Center For Disease Control) Vital Statistics Rates in the United States ( which can be downloaded from their website here:

This pdf is backed up on here:

download it from here

The article on the left ^


Things aren’t always what they seem.

There is no evidence that vaccines are safe nor effective, so the merchants and purveyors resort to distorted statistics to convince the masses to acquiesce to their injected poisons.

“In 1963, John Enders and colleagues transformed their Edmonston-B strain of measles virus into a vaccine and licensed it in the United States.”

[Pro-vaccine article -top left of image below] “Why are people debating the efficacy and safety of the measles vaccine — something proven long ago to be both effective and safe?” – Vital Statistics Rates in the United States
Page 85 (bottom left)

See page 85 of the Vital Statistics Rates in the United States in the link above.

Vaccine “effectiveness” is all a matter of perspective. The chart in red on the left is what they show you to prove the measles vaccine is effective. But look at the green chart on the right, which is available on CDC’s own website!


see page 84 of the Vital Statistics Rates in the United States (

The graph on the left makes it seem as if the diphtheria vaccine saved the day… Not so fast… Let’s look at the bigger picture.

Diphtheria vaccine wasn’t around in the USA before 1980s: In the 1970s, before these vaccines became easily accessible and used worldwide, an estimated 1 million cases of diphtheria including 50 000–60 000 deaths occurred each year in low and middle income countries.6, 7 After the establishment of the Expanded Programme on Immunization (EPI) in 1974, with diphtheria vaccine as one of the original 6 EPI vaccines, the incidence of diphtheria decreased dramatically worldwide. The total number of reported diphtheria cases was reduced by >90% during the period 1980–2000.8, 9, 10

The Diphtheria vaccine was made in the 1920’s but wasn’t available in the USA “before the 1980s” so as you can see from the green graph above, the disease was all but gone before the vaccine was introduced.

Who do they think they are fooling?

Vaccines are NOT mandatory.

Every state in the US offers at least one form of exemption.

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You can opt out in the states for philosophical, religious, and medical reasons.

If you live in California, homeschooling is a great idea.  Hell if you live anywhere, homeschooling is a great idea.

“Nothing is more curious than the self-satisfied dogmatism with which mankind at each period of its history cherishes the delusion of the finality of its existing modes of knowledge.” – Alfred North Whitehead

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The concept and supposed ‘science’ behind vaccination stems from the germ theory fallacy, which purports that there is a specific germ for each disease out there, and we have to strengthen our immune system by exposing ourselves to a small quantity of these isolated bacterium. This is a cute idea, but as it turns out, it’s not the way that the human body operates. (or any other animal for that matter)

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It is true that if you take blood from a sick cow and inject it to a healthy cow that cow’s health will deteriorate.  This is the ‘science’ behind vaccinations, being one of the key points that proponents often bring up.   Injecting a foreign substance directly into a cow’s bloodstream can never be healthy.  Of course this will make the cow sick, but this does not prove that it was germs that killed the cow.

It proves that if you compromise the integrity of the organism by subjecting it to an unfavorable environment (any foreign substance injected into the bloodstream) the health of that organism will deteriorate.  Disease is born of us and in us.  We create our own health and lack there of.   Health cannot come from ‘out there’.  We reap what we sow.

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If germs do not cause disease, which I am pretty sure of now, then vaccines are absolutely useless.  Their whole premise is based off of the idea that germs invade our body and cause specific diseases based on the specific germs. In reality, our bodies create disease due to an unhealthy environment.  The ‘germs’ we detect in humans are the bodies natural defenses to ward off unhealthy conditions.  Germs are like the garbage men of our bodies.   The ‘cure’ to every disease is ‘health’, and not small doses of poison, as the medical authorities will lead you to believe.

How Plumbing (Not Disease) Eradicated Disease

“The fallacy of this (antibody theory) was exposed nearly 50 years ago, which is hardly recent. A report published by the Medical Research Council entitled ‘A study of diphtheria in two areas of Gt. Britain, Special report series 272, HMSO 1950 demonstrated that many of the diphtheria patients had high levels of circulating antibodies, whereas many of the contacts who remained perfectly well had low antibody.” – Magda Taylor, Informed Parent

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Diseases are the crises of purification of toxic elimination.
Symptoms are the natural defences of the body.
Hippocrates 460 B.C.

It is simply no longer possible to believe much of the clinical research that is published, or to rely on the judgment of trusted physicians or authoritative medical guidelines. I take no pleasure in this conclusion, which I reached slowly and reluctantly over my two decades as an editor of The New England Journal of Medicine.  -Marcia Angell, M.D.

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Vaccines are NOT mandatory. They are optional.

“Dr. Beauchamp proved that our bodies became hostess to a germ only after chemical and mechanical changes have damaged our immune systems and that as long as our bodies and tissues retain high vitality, a germ, infection will not make progress. For example, if we see flies on a manure pile which do we think is more intelligent – to fight disease be swatting flies or to remove the pile of manure.”  -Dr. J. Baldor, Surgeon, Florida

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“We still mistakenly cling to the germ theory…For example, the bacteria that causes pneumonia called streptococcus pneumonia is a normal bacteria residing in all our throats. Since we all don’t get pneumonia from it, the determining factor is not the virulence of the bacteria. The bacteria multiplies without restraint only when our immune systems become compromised.”  -Stephen Kuprowsky, ND, Nanaimo, BC

“The man is not sick because he has an illness, but has an illness because he is sick.”
– Author Unknown

msg thimerosol formaldehyde in vaccines

From the website. These are just some of the harmful ingredients contained in vaccines. It doesn’t help if you just take out thimerosal, the mercury containing preservative. All the ingredients are cytotoxic.

Formaldehyde is a carcinogen according to the EPA

Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a better world.  – Linus Pauling

If I could live my life over again, I would devote it to proving that germs seek their natural habitat—diseased tissue—rather than being the cause of the diseased tissue; e.g., mosquitoes seek the stagnant water, but do not cause the pool to become stagnant.   -Rudolph Virchow (Father of Pathology)

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The more commonly accepted a theory is, the less evidence required to prove it’s correct, since we already “know” it’s true.

“Assumption is the mother of all f*!%ups” -that guy from Under Siege II

“Bernard acail raison; le terrain c’est tout, le germe c’est rien.”
“It was not the germ that caused the disease, but rather the environment in which the germ was found.”   – Louis Pasteur  – The father of the fallacious germ theory

“Diseases are not individuals arranged in classes like cats and dogs, but conditions growing out of one another. The specific disease is the grand refuge of the weak, uncultured, unstable minds, such as now rule in the medical profession. There are no specific diseases; there are specific disease conditions.”
Florence Nightingale -1860

Doctors who explain clearly why vaccines are not safe nor effective 
Version 2.0.
Provided by Jason Christoff

1. Dr. Nancy Banks
2. Dr. Russell Blaylock
3. Dr. Shiv Chopra
4. Dr. Sherri Tenpenny
5. Dr. Suzanne Humphries
6. Dr. Larry Palevsky
7. Dr. Toni Bark
8. Dr. Andrew Wakefield
9. Dr. Meryl Nass
10. Dr. Raymond Obomsawin
11. Dr. Ghislaine Lanctot
12. Dr. Robert Rowen
13. Dr. David Ayoub
14. Dr. Boyd Haley PhD
15. Dr. Rashid Buttar
16. Dr. Roby Mitchell
17. Dr. Ken Stoller
18. Dr. Mayer Eisenstein
19. Dr. Frank Engley, PhD
20. Dr. David Davis
21. Dr Tetyana Obukhanych
22. Dr. Harold E Buttram
23. Dr. Kelly Brogan
24. Dr. RC Tent
25. Dr. Rebecca Carley
26. Dr. Andrew Moulden
27. Dr. Jack Wolfson
28. Dr. Michael Elice
29. Dr. Terry Wahls
30. Dr. Stephanie Seneff
31. Dr. Paul Thomas
32. Many doctors talking at once
33. Dr. Richard Moskowitz
34. Dr. Jane Orient
35. Dr. Richard Deth
36. Dr. Lucija Tomljenovic
37. Dr Chris Shaw
38. Dr. Susan McCreadie
39. Dr. Mary Ann Block
40. Dr. David Brownstein
41. Dr. Jayne Donegan
42. Dr. Troy Ross
43. Dr. Philip Incao
44. Dr. Joseph Mercola
45. Dr. Jeff Bradstreet
46. Dr. Robert Mendelson
47. Dr. Garth Nicolson
48. Dr. Marc Girard
49. Dr. Charles Richet
50. Dr. Zac Bush
51. Dr. Lawrence Wilson

Many more doctors testifying that vaccines aren’t safe or effective, in these documentaries..

1. Vaccination – The Silent Epidemic
2. The Greater Good
3. Shots In The Dark
4. Vaccination The Hidden Truth
5. Vaccine Nation
6. Vaccination – The Truth About Vaccines
7. Lethal Injection
8. Bought
9. Deadly Immunity
10. Autism – Made in the USA
11. Beyond Treason
12. Trace Amounts
13. Why We Don’t Vaccinate
14. Autism Yesterday
15. Denmark Documentary on HPV Vaccine

National Vaccine Information Center

Vaccine Ingredients (CDC)

Aluminum vaccine adjuvants: are they safe? (

Vaccinated Children Have 2 to 5 Times More Diseases and Disorders Than Unvaccinated Children

Polio vaccines were contaminated with SV40 monkey virus (

Aluminum Toxicity

List of ingredients in each vaccine

Vaccines DO cause autism

123 Research Papers Supporting the Vaccine/Autism Link

Vaccine Exemptions by State

200 Reasons not to Vaccinate

Joe Dubs

I write about philosophy, geometry, health, politics and other stuff that interests me.


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  9. Hi Joe. Just stumbled on to this excellent site.That’s the thing with the web though,finding sites you wish you had found years ago! Regarding vaccines I agree(mostly, if I were bitten by a rabid animal I probably would get a rabies shot, and maybe the same for tetanus) and have used the same arguments presented here, better sanitation, hygiene and living conditions. Anyhow,a couple of years ago I mentioned to my cousin, a molecular biologist who works for the TGA(the Oz version of the FDA) that polio deaths had declined massively by the time the vaccine had arrived. He responded that it must have been improvements in treatment that reduced the death toll. I pointed out that antibiotics had only been introduced in the 1950’s and don’t work against viruses anyway. He, and I presume the whole science establishment are so emotionally invested in ‘sciency’ stuff they become blinded to what is actually going on. One other factor with vaccines and that is the sheer number that are given to kids these days. I wonder(without any special knowledge) if the number of kids with allegies these days are related to the number of vaccines they receive?

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  11. well done

  12. Protected, he IS SAYING that long ago when we didn’t clean ourselves frequently then we had many diseases. Then we started to remove the dirt and germs from our bodies by daily showers and the diseases disappeared. Ie: dirt and germs do cause diseases.
    Of-course, it is 100% true that vaccines never worked. Vaccines are only a socialist/democratic propaganda for more government power and control.

    • The way I see it is that there are germs absolutely everywhere, even as they are defined in academia, since they recognize that some are good (think probiotics) and some are bad, The germs they think are the cause are really the toxins from the same industries that fund their schooling.(Rockefeller, Flexner)

      Cleanliness is next to Godliness of course. I made this site to address what we can do about the daily toxins.

      There is no certain ‘germ’ for polio for instance, or any other disease they claim. The testing of said ‘diseases’ are always ambiguous, the best example being the PCR. They can’t even claim the diseases are real, let alone the virus or germ they claim that cause the sickness in the first place.

  13. Joe: The way I understand ur article is that while we didn’t clean ourselves from dirt and germs we had many diseases. Then we started to clean ourselves and our food by removing dirt and germs and the diseases disappeared.
    Congratulation to this article and to the fantastic historical info presented.

  14. Thanks for the work you do Joe! Much appreciated.

  15. Disclaimer: not here to argue, just have a civil dialectic conversation. With that being said, I lean toward the pro-vaccer side. My reasoning for this is mainly that I trust the scientific community, I aim to be a part of it to help people so of course I trust good science. Now there is a lot of research that is not good, but we get better at not allowing that to happen. It’s the fact that we live in an age of information and competition and to be human is to not know the truth. What I mean by that is imo to know the truth == to know everything, our existence as individuals is finite, so ergo we can’t be human and also know everything. Does our intuition work remarkably faster than language, yes, but to communicate that intuition slows it down but it’s necessary. I’m sorry if it seems I’m straying off topic here but I’m getting there. I’m sure there are many out there who manipulate for selfish gain, but I think as a whole, society progresses. We will see how this covid-19 vaccine works out, but I plan on getting it and being part of the people. Just as there is evidence against vaccines, there is a lot of evidence for them, done by people who actually specialize in health. To say the whole medical community is out to get us seems unrealistic. I do think there will be a point where we realize vaccines are barbaric, like blood letting with leeches or dumping feces into your water supply. but we need to actually figure out a better way. Like the graphs with polio for instance, of course there is a peak where it’s novel and therefor more people can get it because there is no immunity. that will eventually go down, but births will come in and be susceptible. After decades potentially, we would adapt, but so many people would die to get us there. But polio isn’t even a thing anymore because enough people were immune that it didn’t have anywhere to stay. Maybe it’s not ideal, people do still get hurt from vaccines, but it’s significantly less.

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